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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Eric Goldberg's thoughts on CGI Reply with quote

Not sure if anyone else saw, but Eric Goldberg (Genie's head animator) had a letter in this week's Time:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1118345-3,00.html
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as long as he says he'll keep with hand drawing... then I don't mind about him playing around with the thought of CGI.

But, Genie as a CGI character, puh-leez. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a CGI character? I thought that Genie was hand drawn.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's a CGI character? I thought that Genie was hand drawn.


Uh... CGI would be Carpet/The Cave of Wonders if you needed Aladdin references. They are characters/things animated on a computer instead of hand-drawn.

Genie is handrawn... I was saying if they did make him CGI it just wouldn't be... right... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it wouldn't be right. I really can't see Genie like that. I hate those computer movies like toy story and all that. I like the animated ones better.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hourglass wrote:
Uh... CGI would be Carpet/The Cave of Wonders if you needed Aladdin references. They are characters/things animated on a computer instead of hand-drawn.


No, no. Carpet's design is CGI; he himself is hand drawn Very Happy

As for Genie being CGI, it wouldn't be the first time. They did it for the Disneyland commercial last year along with Iago. As long as they don't go around having him along with everyone else CGI ALL the time, then I can live. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, The Cave of Wonders head was CGI, but Eric provided 2D references for it.

As some might suggest, the one can not live without the other. 2D animators cannot go without knowing 3D and vice versa.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As for Genie being CGI, it wouldn't be the first time. They did it for the Disneyland commercial last year along with Iago.


I think that's the CGI Genie that he was talking about. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, see I thought he was talking about that Genie he made for that exhibit in Disneyland in Tokyo (or somewhere over there) and then the 3-D characters in the commercial in general. Him talking about both would make more sense, though Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AladdinsGenie wrote:
Hourglass wrote:
Uh... CGI would be Carpet/The Cave of Wonders if you needed Aladdin references. They are characters/things animated on a computer instead of hand-drawn.


No, no. Carpet's design is CGI; he himself is hand drawn Very Happy

As for Genie being CGI, it wouldn't be the first time. They did it for the Disneyland commercial last year along with Iago. As long as they don't go around having him along with everyone else CGI ALL the time, then I can live. Laughing


Okay, yes, I knew that Carpet was hand-drawn for a good part of his animation. I just knew that it was a big deal to have a CGI character in an animated movie, especially since he fit in so well. Wink

And I did see Genie as CGI... and I did not like it AT ALL. Animated Genie all the way. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but Carpet is not a CGI character Laughing . The CoW is, but the only thing CGI on Carpet is his design. He's still a 2-D character; those lines we see are not created on the computer.

But this is also why if they did make Carpet completely CGI, you really cannot tell unless you look at the tassels, or have a tassel fetish Laughing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, but Carpet is not a CGI character Laughing . The CoW is, but the only thing CGI on Carpet is his design. He's still a 2-D character; those lines we see are not created on the computer.

But this is also why if they did make Carpet completely CGI, you really cannot tell unless you look at the tassels, or have a tassel fetish Laughing.


ALRIGHT, he's not a CGI character, but he does have CGI elements in him. Cool That was my point. Wasn't it a first in animation? The CoW was CGI, but still, he's not as widely-talked about as Carpet is for his animation.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I believe Carpet was the first use of CGI combined with handdrawn animation. Before the crews only used it for backgrounds like the ballroom in Beauty or the inside of Big Ben in Basil.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite certain the tassels were hand-drawn. The only part of Carpet that was CGI was the pattern - this being because all that detail would have been much, much, much too darned difficult to do by hand.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syera wrote:
I'm quite certain the tassels were hand-drawn.


I am too. I was using that as an example of IF they made Carpet CGI since the only real difference/way to tell would be the tassels, and if you are really good, the outline himself. Wink
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