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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:44 pm    Post subject: Chronology? Reply with quote

I apologize if this has been asked before, but I have been wondering if there is an official timeline for the entire Aladdin saga, movies and series included. I know certain episodes can be used as guideposts. For example, "Forget Me Lots" is one year after the movie and "The Book of Khartoum" is one year after "Some Enchanted Genie". But I have never seen anything written anywhere. Granted, I've been out of the loop for several years, but none of the sites I've visted recently have anything.

This is just been something I've been contemplating for myself, especially if I ever decide to write (and finish!) another fanfic. (And, yes, I do have an idea for a story. Scary, huh?)

Julie
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, no. A few people (myself included) have started one but never finished... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know no one has a timeline for the entire Aladdin saga yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Chronology? Reply with quote

Timelining that and the former rulers of Agrabah would take a while.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree AladdinsGenie!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone. That's too bad there isn't one. Wouldn't it be nice though? All the episodes neatly listed in chronological order.

Oh, well. Thanks again.

Julie
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your welcome Julie!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried it a few times, but like Heather said, it's never been finished.

We know that "The Return of Malcho" definetly follows "Lost City of the Sun" and "Snowman is an Island" due to the presence of the Mamluk sprite and Kutato's doorknockers.

And "Love at First Sprite" is after "Lost and Founded".

And of course the whole villain episode after debuts issue, which is so obvious that I don't know why I just mentioned it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what; I'll just post what I wrote earlier. I'll edit this post later. I should just sit down and finish this thing...

listed alphabetically:

Bad Mood Rising has to be before...
- The Citadel (probably), it's assumed we know about Quarkistan already

The Citadel has to be before...
- The Secret of Dagger Rock, The Wind Jackals of Mozenrath, When Chaos Comes Calling, Vocal Hero, The Lost City of the Sun, The Book of Khartoum, and Two To Tangle because of Mozenrath (WCCC near the beginning if possible? Moze is referred to as "someone new")
- Night of the Living Mud, because Aladdin has recently fought mamluks

A Clockwork Hero has to be before...
- The Flawed Couple, because Mechanikles mentions being thrown off a cliff by Aladdin (maybe The Love Bug instead?)
- Armored and Dangerous and While the City Snoozes, because of Dominus Tusk

To Cure a Thief has to be before...
- A Clockwork Hero, Scare Necessities, the Flawed Couple, and the other Skull and Dagger episodes I can't remember the names of right now (probably), TCaT seems like it's introducing the Skull and Dagger
- Scare Necessities, Vocal Hero, and Sneeze the Day because of Amin

Do the Rat Thing has to be before...
- While the City Snoozes, since Jas doesn't know Fasir in the first one, but does in the second
- To Cure a Thief (probably), DtRT seems like it's introducing the Thieves' Guild

Dune Quixote has to be before...
- Which Way Did She Go?, Jasmine and Sadira are friends

Elemental, My Dear Jasmine has to be before...
- Shark Treatment, because of Saleen

Forget Me Lots
(Note: exactly 1 year after AWNW. Jasmine's 17th birthday 1-2 days later...)

Fowl Weather has to be before...
- Rain of Terror and The Love Bug, because of Thundra

The Garden of Evil has to be before...
- When Chaos Comes Calling (probably), the reference to a "bittersweet think [Aladdin] doesn't feel right about for days" is probably killing Arbutus
(Note: Sultan made his deal with Arbutus exactly 20 years earlier)

Genie Hunt has to be before...
- The Hunted, because of the Muktaar

Getting the Bugs Out has to be before...
- My Fair Aladdin, Plunder the Sea, I Never Mechanism I Didn't Like, A Clockwork Hero, The Love Bug, When Chaos Comes Calling, Sneeze the Day, and The Flawed Couple, because of Mechanikles
- While the City Snoozes (probably), Mirage mentions Mechanikles
(Note: The Flawed Couple should be near the end: Aladdin has defeated Mechanikles many times)

Hero with a Thousand Feathers has to be before...
- Poor Iago, because Iago gives away a cup from the temple of Amok Mon-Ra
Note: Amok ruled Agrabah "thousands" of years ago

In the Heat of the Fright has to be before...
- Shadow of a Doubt, When Chaos Comes Calling, The Lost Ones, Eye of the Beholder, and While the City Snoozes, because of Mirage
(Note: SoaD and WCCC should be closer to the end, since in both it's said that Mirage has tried to destroy Agrabah/Aladdin many times)

Lost and Founded has to be before...
- Love at First Sprite (probably) : "You're in a vortex! A time vortex! I remember that episode..." (Could also be The Sands of Fate, but only LaF specifically referred to it as a vortex.)
Note: Hamed, first ruler of Agrabah

The Lost City of the Sun has to be before...
- Black Sand and Two to Tangle, because those eps show Moze's skeletal hand
- The Return of Malcho, since Aladdin dreams about a mamluk-sprite
(See the note for Snowman is an Island)

The Lost Ones has to be before...
- A Clockwork Hero, because of Waheed
Note: Anyone good at judging ages of kids? Because if anyone could figure out how old Al was in the flashback, we could figure out approximately when the ep took place

Love at First Sprite has to be before...
- The Lost City of the Sun, because of the sprites

Mudder's Day has to be before...
- The Night of the Living Mud and Sneeze the Day because of the al-Muddi
- The Citadel (probably), Mozenrath makes a reference to the al-Muddi
- When Chaos Comes Calling (probably), because Aladdin has fought "mud monsters"

My Fair Aladdin has to be before...
- The Flawed Couple, because Mechanikles has the remains of his centipede robot in his hideout

Never Say Nefir has to be before...
- Power to the Parrot, because Aladdin knows about Getzistan
- Poor Iago (probably) - Iago mentions Getzistan, but then again, he was the one telling Aladdin about it in NSN
- The Seven Faces of Genie and Egg-Stra Protection, because everyone already knows Sultan Pasta
- Mission Imp-Possible and The Way We War, because of Nefir and the imps
- My Fair Aladdin, Aladdin brags about fighting a giant dancing rhinoceros (did he say how long ago? need to watch this one again)
- Night of the Living Mud, they mention Aladdin saving Getzistan from something-or-other

Opposites Detract has to be before...
- When Chaos Comes Calling, reference to Aladdin having fought a dragon

Poor Iago has to be before...
- Caught by the Tale, The Flawed Couple, Smolder and Wiser (probably), because PI seems to be introducing Akbar

The Prophet Motive has to be before...
- Do the Rat Thing (probably); Jas doesn't know who Fasir is, but the story seems to presume we know him already. Iago didn't see him, so no prob there.
- Caught by the Tale, since a couple of the stories in it were based on the events of this ep
- The Sands of Fate, since everyone knows Fasir
- Hero With a Thousand Feathers (probably), since Iago seems to recognize Fasir
- Eye of the Beholder (probably), it's assumed we already know who Fasir is
- Forget Me Lots, Air Feather Friends, Caught By the Tale, Smolder and Wiser, The Seven Faces of Genie, Egg-Stra Protection and all the other Haroud episodes (probably), it seems like TPM is introducing Haroud
(Note: TPM should be very early, since it's mentioned that Aladdin's 17, so if it was too late it would make him too young in the first movie)

Raiders of the Lost Shark has to be before...
- Beast or Famine, because of Murk, the Beast, etc...
- When Chaos Comes Calling, reference to giant sharks

Rain of Terror has to be before...
- The Return of Malcho, because of Malcho

The Sands of Fate has to be before...
- Riders Redux, because of Zarasto and the Riders of Ramond

SandSwitch has to be before...
- Dune Quixote, Sadira wants Aladdin at the beginning, gives up at the end

Scare Necessities
Note: Jasmine's 18th birthday, or spontaneous gift-giving? Maybe late 17th birthday presents?

The Secret of Dagger Rock has to be before...
- The Hunted, because of the Crystal of Ix

Seems Like Old Crimes, Part 1 has to be before...
- Seems Like Old Crimes, Part 2. Duh.
(Note: The flashback can't have taken place long before the first movie; Aladdin hasn't visibly aged)

Seems Like Old Crimes, Part 2 has to be before...
- Destiny on Fire, because of Aziz

Smolder and Wiser has to be before...
- When Chaos Comes Calling, because of the reference to "lava monsters"

Snowman is an Island has to be before...
- The Return of Malcho, because Aladdin dreams about the doorknocker from the Yeti's castle
Note: The Return of Malcho is probably *very* soon after both SiaI and The Lost City of the Sun; if Al is dreaming about both the doorknocker and mamluk-sprites; they're probably still fresh in his mind

Some Enchanted Genie must be before...
- The Book of Khartoum, it is exactly one year since Genie and Eden met
- Two to Tangle, because of a reference to gumdrop and pepperoni pizza

The Spice is Right has to be before...
- Sea No Evil, As the Netherworld Turns, and The Shadow Knows, because everyone knows Ayam Aghoul
Note: This has been bugging me: at the end of TSIR, Ayam is trapped in the necklace, but in all the later eps he comes back from the Netherworld, where Aladdin has supposedly banished him. When did that happen? Are we missing an episode?

Stinker Belle has to be before...
- Smells Like Trouble, since Brawnie and Uncouthma marry in SB and have a son in SLT. There's probably a *lot* of time, since Bud's so old

Strike Up the Sand has to be before...
- SandSwitch, Sadira and Aladdin have already met

A Sultan Worth His Salt has to be before...
- From Hippsodeth, With Love, because of the Galafemmes

That Stinking Feeling has to be before...
- Snowman is an Island and Stinker Belle, because they're coming back from Odiferus
Just a note on that: in none of the Odiferus eps do Al, Genie, Iago, and Abu go there without Carpet or Jasmine, so either they went some other time we don't know about, or Jas had to come back early after Stinker Belle and took Carpet with her
- Power to the Parrot, since they have Odiferan cheese at the palace
- Stinker Belle and The Way We War, since everyone already knows Uncouthma
- When Chaos Comes Calling (probably), because it's mentioned Aladdin has fought plant monsters (unless Jasmine was referring to Arbutus, and I doubt she'd call *him* a monster)

The Way We War has to be before...
- Smells Like Trouble (probably), since it seems like they're introducing General Gouda in TWWW and we're supposed to know who he is in SLT

Web of Fear has to be before...
- When Chaos Comes Calling, reference to giant spiders

Witch Way Did She Go?
Note: Witches of the Sand ruled the 7 Deserts 1000 years ago


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thanks! That's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for! I am definitely copying and pasting this to a document on my computer! It will definitely come in handy if I ever do decide to get back into writing Aladdin fanfic! Thanks so much!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMAO! Looks like all those logic puzzles I used to do! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'll save it too! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm going to keep working on it, so I wouldn't save it yet. And of course anyone who wants to can help... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think When Chaos Comes Calling is before the Mo eps because Genie refers to him as "Or someone new." Then again, it could be a goof. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AladdinsGenie886 wrote:
I think When Chaos Comes Calling is before the Mo eps because Genie refers to him as "Or someone new." Then again, it could be a goof. Confused
Yeah, but then Genie would have to be able to tell the future. Shocked So maybe they've only fought him once or twice at that point?
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