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AladdinsGenie
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 Is that a real show? That's the biggest rip off I've ever seen. |
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Iago
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What the-....just...no
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SkylaDoragono
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| Is that a real show? That's the biggest rip off I've ever seen. |
It was going to be. Before DiC got the license to dub the real Sailor Moon series, Toon Makers and some other defunct company had the rights to make an American knock off (similar to the way Power Rangers knocks off Super Sentai). It seems to have been live action, then cut to cartoon bits when the girls transform.
I've got mixed feelings about this. While the live action seems super corny, the animation actually looks pretty badass (for the time period). I'm glad it never got off the ground, but I'm curious as to what it might have turned into.
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I'm now grateful for the dub for I have seen the alternative.
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Syera
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Wow. That song was even more annoying than the American butcherization of Moonlight Densetsu.
FuzzyWhite!Luna was cute, though.
...But not as cute as PurplePlushie!Luna. 
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SkylaDoragono
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| ...But not as cute as PurplePlushie!Luna. |
PurplePlushie!Luna is the cutest thing in existance. Until she transforms. That's just scary.
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Janette Morgan
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 That is just... horrible. The worst example of American cartooning in existence. It was like... Power Rangers meets Transformers meets Gargoyles, with a few extra stupidisms. Uggh. (Is it any wonder that most of the best cartoons come from Japan?)
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| PurplePlushie!Luna is the cutest thing in existance. Until she transforms. That's just scary. |
Well, she was cute 'n' all, but you don't normally expect a Wise Ancient Being to come out looking like a ten-year-old. They waaay overdid the cutesy.
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Syera
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| Janette Morgan wrote: |
| That is just... horrible. The worst example of American cartooning in existence. It was like... Power Rangers meets Transformers meets Gargoyles, with a few extra stupidisms. Uggh. (Is it any wonder that most of the best cartoons come from Japan?) |
Where do you figure on the Gargoyles?
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Janette Morgan
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The art style.
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Syera
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That's a pretty common style. Has nothing to go with Gargoyles, really.
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The animation *is* good and I'm also really interested in seeing what it might've become but I'm glad this didn't happen because they were attempting to pass off an adult as a 15 year old. 
While we're on the topic of Sailor Moon...I don't dislike it now, but I really disliked it when I was a kid. I think I've grown fonder of it as I grew older because I still consider it a part of my childhood. But the reasons I disliked it back then were because I didn't understand it.
1. I never understood why the villains didn't just run away while the girls were busy changing. I thought it was because they wore such little clothing themselves that they were fascinated by the stuff.
2. I never understood why the girls would kick, punch, and throw their best magical elements to try and defeat most of these villains but it was ineffective. And then Tuxedo Mask comes along with some corny speech and throws a rose at the villain and it would be more powerful than the girls fighting as a group. And then he would leave before the villain was actually defeated, instead of just throwing some more roses.
3. I never understood why nobody ever recognized the girls when they were Sailor Scouts. At least TM wore a mask!
4. I never understood where TM got his costume. Why doesn't he get his own sparkly (or naked in the japanese version) entrance like the girls? Does he rent that tuxedo? Is he saving it for prom? Is he a fan of Abe Lincoln? And roses are expensive! How does he manage to pay for all of them? Does he steal them from his neighbor's garden? Does he take back the roses he threw after the show? |
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Syera
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| 1. I never understood why the villains didn't just run away while the girls were busy changing. I thought it was because they wore such little clothing themselves that they were fascinated by the stuff. |
Ah, the pesky henshin that has puzzles fans forever. Some have speculated that time runs differently during a henshin - while it seems to take a moment for the transformee, to everyone else it's instantaneous.
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| 2. I never understood why the girls would kick, punch, and throw their best magical elements to try and defeat most of these villains but it was ineffective. And then Tuxedo Mask comes along with some corny speech and throws a rose at the villain and it would be more powerful than the girls fighting as a group. And then he would leave before the villain was actually defeated, instead of just throwing some more roses. |
Rather annoying, that. I mean, a monster can't be defeated until it's been hit by a li'l flower?
In the manga, Tuxedo Kamen didn't throw a single rose... he didn't need to. 
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| 3. I never understood why nobody ever recognized the girls when they were Sailor Scouts. At least TM wore a mask! |
For awhile, Moon did wear a mask in the manga. Then she quit wearing it. Takeuchi did once have all the girls in masks of some kind, though - you can see 'em in some of her concept art.
[/quote]4. I never understood where TM got his costume. Why doesn't he get his own sparkly (or naked in the japanese version) entrance like the girls? Does he rent that tuxedo? Is he saving it for prom? Is he a fan of Abe Lincoln? And roses are expensive! How does he manage to pay for all of them? Does he steal them from his neighbor's garden? Does he take back the roses he threw after the show? [/quote]
Tuxedo Kamen did get a henshin. I don't know how often or when it was used.
The tuxedo was the outfit he wore to the masquerade ball shortly before the fall of the Silver Millenium. I really can't tell you how it became bound to him as a transformation outfit, though.
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| The tuxedo was the outfit he wore to the masquerade ball shortly before the fall of the Silver Millenium. I really can't tell you how it became bound to him as a transformation outfit, though. |
Ohh, okay.  I wonder if he brings it to the cleaners whenever it gets dirty? I'm trying to picture him ironing his suit or yelling to a villain, "Careful! It's dry clean only!" |
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Syera
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*Shrugs* Considering that it's the outfit he transforms into, it doesn't need cleaned. It seems that these outfits are magically cleaned and repaired when not in use.
To get silly about it in a sci-fi way, the outfit is probably stored in subspace as an energy pattern when not in use. During the henshin sequence, it's called back from subspace and is converted back into matter and reassembled per instructions carried within the henshin device. The same probably holds true for at least some weapons and other goodies. Because the henshin device's specifications are of that of the outfit and weapon in prime condition, it will always appear on the character in new condition.
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