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Meesh
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| It's alright Mirage, can understand you. I initially really disliked the movie, but after some rewatches I kinda started to accept it and see the good in it. Like I get why the characters are the way they are, even if I personally don1t like it. |
Right. Like AG said a couple weeks ago, your first watch you go in already comparing it with the first movie. Your next watch(es), it's easier to watch it as its own thing because you got the comparisons out of your system.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Meesh wrote: |
| Right. Like AG said a couple weeks ago, your first watch you go in already comparing it with the first movie. Your next watch(es), it's easier to watch it as its own thing because you got the comparisons out of your system. |
Yeppers. I still have my biases a bit, but I started to look at it on its own and see what is actually good. Reason why I also want to write a little analysis on both Genies because my heart may pull me to OG Genie, but I see now why people find Will Genie really good.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwEMZPKLOl4
*sighs* Really would love if they stopped this. Half of these points are not even fixes, just minor changes that ultimately don't even effect the plot, yet they act like the new movie is better...
New movie is decent, a strong 6/10 (story and characters are not that well executed imo) yet they don't even try to mention the new movie flaws, just point out how the original is inferior to new movie. Just glad they didn't bring up which Genie is better.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thinking about this movie, the reason why I liked the changes (particularly to Jasmine) so much was because cartoon Jasmine was the hero five year old me looked up to, but didn’t really see as me, whereas live action Jasmine I found super relatable as someone who worked in and is going into a heavily male dominated industry and really did and will have to fight to have her voice heard. She’s a character kids can look up to and adults who grew up with the original can see themselves in, and I think that’s really cool.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Princess of Agrabah wrote: |
| Thinking about this movie, the reason why I liked the changes (particularly to Jasmine) so much was because cartoon Jasmine was the hero five year old me looked up to, but didn’t really see as me, whereas live action Jasmine I found super relatable as someone who worked in and is going into a heavily male dominated industry and really did and will have to fight to have her voice heard. She’s a character kids can look up to and adults who grew up with the original can see themselves in, and I think that’s really cool. |
It's weird but I related more to Aladdin. I just could/can see myself in him in many ways, especially when I was depressed. I guess this is why his development in the movie still touches me a lot and why the message "be yourself" is so important to me.
And to Genie I heavily look up to. Seeing the good in everyone, caring about others and just trying to bring smile to others: h's just a great person and wish I could be around him.
Jasmine was fine, I find her pretty good in animated movie, but she was just a little bit behind compared to Aladdin and Genie in terms of how much impact they left on my young self and even adult-self.
Probably the reason why I have a hard time loving the new movie. They changed Aladdin and Genie in many ways, to the point where I even disliked them (mind you I do think they can work as characters) and while Jasmine is good... her actual journey was just not well executed in my opinion, making it hard for me to look up to her even with liking the idea of her arc.
I bet kids can look up to her new version, but for me it just did not work. Maybe I'm just different in that matter.
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I think that was the whole goal too, to take what was in the film already and develop her character for a modern audience. For me this worked way better than Beauty and the Beast did because the changes with respect to Jasmine were organic. I liked how her ambition wasn’t a bad thing, and neither was demanding to be heard.
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| Princess of Agrabah wrote: |
| I think that was the whole goal too, to take what was in the film already and develop her character for a modern audience. For me this worked way better than Beauty and the Beast did because the changes with respect to Jasmine were organic. I liked how her ambition wasn’t a bad thing, and neither was demanding to be heard. |
I get that, but wish they had executed that better and also let the other characters be as good as they were. I get her arc, but I guess I just can't really relate to? Guess I'm not modern.
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Princess of Agrabah
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You just have a different opinion. Nothing wrong with that  Just from where I’m at in my life I found her relatable, but obviously that’s a personal thing and not universal.
I don’t think that anything fundamentally changed to hurt the integrity of the first film, and believe it stands up pretty well on its own as a 2019 take on the movie.
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| Princess of Agrabah wrote: |
You just have a different opinion. Nothing wrong with that Just from where I’m at in my life I found her relatable, but obviously that’s a personal thing and not universal.
I don’t think that anything fundamentally changed to hurt the integrity of the first film, and believe it stands up pretty well on its own as a 2019 take on the movie. |
I suppose. Guess Aladdin and Genie just got to me more with how I am and what issues I have in real life.
On its own it doesn't, but recently I see people and certain medium trying to push the narrative that the new movie is superior, which irks me as I can see how they cherrypick the stuff in the new movie, while not even mention the actual flaws of the movie. Just feels wrong.
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That’s the neat thing about Aladdin—you can likely find at least one character to relate to 
That’s fair—I can see how that would seem intellectually dishonest. For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s superior because it’s based on the original film which makes it tough to compare them to begin with. I can understand why some people felt this one spoke to them more though.
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| Princess of Agrabah wrote: |
That’s the neat thing about Aladdin—you can likely find at least one character to relate to
That’s fair—I can see how that would seem intellectually dishonest. For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s superior because it’s based on the original film which makes it tough to compare them to begin with. I can understand why some people felt this one spoke to them more though. |
Indeed. The characters are just so lovable even after decades.
My issue is not that they find it better than the original, just when they cherrypick stuff to make their argument better while trying to put down the other. This happens way too much to Bleach even to this day (yes Bleach has many flaws and the ending was rushed, but what people do to just put it down sickens me) and sad to see Aladdin is getting this as well.
Once I get an English copy of the new movie, I should do a deep-in analysis for both movies and try to show what works and what doesn't scene by scene.
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Leaving now to finally see it a second time Excited!
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| I'm surprised it's still in theaters! |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:16 am Post subject: |
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My app still shows showings that are "almost full" when I book! But it is only like 3 AMC theatres near me (and there are loooots in LA)!
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